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What Others Are Saying
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Ryan Goeckner wrote So...why in the name of all that is holy, is this shirt out of stock?!
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stev0 wrote why why why is it out of stock?
WANT!
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Doug wrote You guys think you're better than us? Get off of wikipedia. Seriously, it's a little obnoxious when you get some loser with nothing better to do give history lessons over the internet. Bet you guys are the same people who look up shit like "particle physics" so you can bring it up at the least possible provocation in a social setting to look knowledgeable.
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Robert Paulson wrote Wow, has no one made the connection that this is a fight club t shirt? Or were we not supposed to talk about it?
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Nathan "Clarissa Explains It All" Snyder wrote Well, my friends, there is a band called The Pink Lincolns. They are clearly not popular enough to warrant the design, though, since the comments if full of people trying to figure out what it means.
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NotARetardo wrote No, pretend history teacher, it also abolished the general welfare clause, for instance. The political class owned slaves, which made it certainly an issue, but some 15% was that political class. Most who fought in the war didnt do it simply for slavery. The higher industrialization of the north made it so the tariffs only hurt the south. One wonders, if Lincoln was some knight of abolition, why he didnt draft an Emancipation Ultimatum asking for states to abolish slavery if they wished to secede, which would have resulted in quite a strife between said political class and its people. Lincoln\'s first major political move was to get Seward to back the Corwin Amendment, which made slavery permanent in the south. Treason is defined in the Constitution as making war against the states, and Lincoln didnt acknowledge the basic right to secede, and, since this becomes a lame attempt at slander, the other side can play this game too, as Hitler supported Lincoln specifically for his nationalist theory of union, ie his opposition to states rights. One could go on, but in short, have fun with your presuppositional myths to further your backwards political ideology justifying what today would be the equivalent of 5 million of your countrymen slaughtered by an invasion from the federal government.
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Ange wrote Too bad it is more of a burgundy color and not pink
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Norbert wrote If this has a gay reference, I imagine it's about the speculation that Lincoln had a male lover for some time...
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Illinoisan wrote The first gay president. Then, the first black president. Illinois wins!
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Every ones a fucking ignorant, over reading, prick wrote It's an awesome shirt fuck heads
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Bobert wrote How the hell is this a gay rights shirt?
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History Teacher wrote @ "the civil war wasn't about slavery" people.
Wrong. The south left because A) they feared that the growing abolition movement in the more populous and industrialized (and thus generally more influential) North would mean less slave states would be admitted to the union (especially as the western territories began seeking statehood; see "Bloody Kansas") and that this would lead to a situation wherein the more abolition-leaning North would have the votes in congress to end slavery and B) because Lincoln was a Republican (which had been founded solely to oppose the Kansas-Nebraska Act), albeit a moderate one, and the Republican party writ large was very much pro-abolition (or at the least, very much pro-"not admitting any more slave states) which tied into Southern paranoia that I mentioned in point A.
Heck, one of the major issues of the 1856 election was repealing the Kansas-Nebraska Act and admitting Kansas as a free state. The Republicans supported this, the Democrats did not. The South threatened to secession and civil war over this.
Don't kid yourself when you hear southerners or anyone for that matter talking about how it was an issue of states rights that caused the war; it all came back to slavery (i.e. "states rights" to own slaves, "states rights" to break away from the union if they felt their slave-fueled lifestyle/economy was being threatened by a growing abolitionist movement).
For god's sake, the southern constitution was nearly a word for word copy of the US constitution except that it mandated slavery and made it all but impossible to abolish it.
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Matthew Willard wrote just got this in today. its pretty epic.
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Random wrote Be excellent to each other.
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Adam Clayton (atc8868@hotmail.com) wrote Seriously is there meaning behind the pink lincoln shirt, or is it just awesome because Abe is neon pink?
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:( wrote like it matters. You see lots of people wearing a Ché shirt but nobody cares he was a murderer.
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Butt Monger wrote i love butts
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Jesse wrote @ "your hero was a racist":
holy cow.
are you kidding me?
it's obvious that you haven't read the rest of that debate with Douglas, or studied up on anything from the time period that wasn't some biased conspiracy theory. Go read up on it, from a HISTORY BOOK, and then go read the FULL ARTICLE (if you can read that much), and then come back and say something.
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jim jam wrote i love this shirt! the only problem i found with it was that the pink was not as vibrant as the display picture, but i have a pink abe lincoln shirt. i'm not gonna complain.
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kendall nguyen (cold_as_mess@live.com) wrote racist or not, the end result of the civil war was a huge step forward for civil rights of minorities in america. and can you really blame anyone for being racist during those dark times? science was still an infant compared to the mountain mover it is today. people did not understand the human mind and how it developed. hell, even darwin was racist in the same regard you are holding lincoln to, and he is the one who showed us how similar we all are. so whatever point you are trying to prove about abe "your hero was a racist", you're really not saying anything at all. people of the past did not have the luxury of knowing the things we all take for granted today.
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Adam J wrote Just recieved it in the mail. Out of all the ones I ordered I liked this one the most. Mine did not have pink around Abes head it was burgandy.
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Your hero was a racist. wrote "I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."
-Abraham Lincoln
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Erika wrote Gay rights shirt?
Please explain.
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Whut? wrote Gay rights t-shirt? Ehh?
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Michael Reynolds wrote Gotta admit, it's a lot better than all the overdone Che shirts.
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electric_six wrote i said do yah... do yah have any money? i want to spend all yo money
AT THE GAY BAR
GAY BAR
GAY BAR
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swim4life wrote this whole website is amazing... good shirt
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Chelz wrote I didn't realize I was going to get a history lesson while I browsed tee shirts.
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drfumanchu wrote is this a t-shirt for log cabin republicans?
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--. wrote Lincoln's a chick!
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